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Shredding Liberals: “The founders were all deists!”

Posted by cann0nba11 on February 3, 2010

If you find yourself in a large crowd and want to identify the liberals, fire up a discussion about the faith of America’s founding fathers, and then throw out the concept that America was founded upon Judeo-Christian values. Let the fireworks begin.

If you are lucky someone in the crowd took a college filler course on this very topic. You will know for sure when someone quips “the founding fathers weren’t Christians, they were Deists.” Heads will nod, people will agree as the group-think sets in, and nobody will contest this apparent subject matter expert.

But what exactly is a Deist? The most important thing to realize is that a Deist is not an atheist. They are very, very different. Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity. Deism is a belief in a divine power and a form of unorganized religion. Wikipedia offers that Deism is:

  • “the standpoint that reason and observation of the natural world, without the need for organized religion, can determine that a supreme being created the universe.”
  • “The term often implies that this supreme being does not intervene in human affairs or suspend the natural laws of the universe.”
  • “Deists believe in the existence of God without any reliance on revealed religion, religious authority or holy books.”
  • So, for the casual “they were diests” quipper, check your premise. If you are using the term synonymously with atheist, you would be wrong. Deists believe in a divine power. But for some reason, many liberals play the deist card in an attempt to silence any conversation around any influence that Christianity had on the founding of the greatest country the world has ever known. Some people can’t stomach the idea that America was built with the underpinnings of a religious foundation.

    • “Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity… and leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.” — Samuel Adams
  • “The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.” — John Adams
  • “We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel” — Benjamin Franklin
  • “Amongst other strange things said of me, I hear it is said by the deists that I am one of the number; and indeed, that some good people think I am no Christian. This thought gives me much more pain than the appellation of Tory; because I think religion of infinitely higher importance than politics; and I find much cause to reproach myself that I have lived so long, and have given no decided and public proofs of my being a Christian. But, indeed, my dear child, this is a character which I prize far above all this world has, or can boast.” — Patrick Henry
  • “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” John Jay
  • “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We’ve staked the future of all our political institutions upon our capacity…to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” — James Madison
  • “The evil that has resulted from the error of the schools, in teaching natural philosophy as an accomplishment only, has been that of generating in the pupils a species of atheism. Instead of looking through the works of creation to the Creator himself, they stop short, and employ the knowledge they acquire to create doubts of his existence. They labour with studied ingenuity to ascribe every thing they behold to innate properties of matter, and jump over all the rest by saying, that matter is eternal.” — Thomas Paine
  • “To the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian” — George Washington
  • The brilliant minds that formed our more perfect union were very learned men. Unlike our leaders today, they were voracious readers of all material, religious and secular. There is no denying that their religious beliefs help shape our country. Please remember that they purposely did not establish a national religion. They instead left this as an option for the states to decide when they wrote the Tenth Amendment. You might find it interesting to know that nine of the thirteen original states did have an official state religion. The first amendment says “the Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”  It does not say that there should be no displays of religious texts in government buildings, or prayer in school.

    If you are a liberal reading this, please post a comment explaining why you think religion had no part on the formation of our country. Ask yourself why you are so firmly entrenched in this position. Is it due to a bad religious experience? Overbearing parents? It”s not cool to dig religion? If you firmly believe in your position, can you explain why any religious influence would have been a bad thing? Why is playing the deist card so attractive to you?

    addendum: Here’s a nice <10 minute video of acclaimed historian David Barton shredding the idea that the founders were not religious. This is based on their own words and the actual documents, something called research (a.k.a. foreign concept to liberals).

    David Barton on the Faith of the Founding Fathers

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